Notion Thief If it truly is that big of an issue, the ban will come quickly, and if not, no action needs to be taken. I'm here to post this so that when the inevitable finally does occur I've got something to point to and say "see, told ya so again". No other combination of 2 cards, in fact, is this powerful. I have found that true casual players (those who play for the social aspect) run limited interactions beyond what you could find in a budget upgraded precon. Defendants. Swords to Plowshares exists. or Obviously this would be a weakness and a flaw that could be exploited in deck construction technique, so I don't recommend it. It is not so broken at a glance that it needs a preemptive ban. It's not just a typical hoser. Despite fierce lobbying by the chemicals industry and opposition by countries including Britain, 15 of the 27 member states voted for a two-year restriction on neonicotinoid insecticides. Flash. Friday August 28, 2009 5:55 pm. But if it has legs, it can be hated out. In Opposition to the No Ban Act. | Spike on the Mic E02. It's basically T3feri for tutors. The issue is that it's hard to always have AG consistently in hand w/o a tutor, which OA completely nullifies. Force of Will exists. RiotRunner789 if Maralen is in play they can't draw, and he mentioned some corner cases too. Doomsday cannot be run. About Agent Orange: Agent Orange was one of a class of color-coded herbicides that U.S. forces sprayed over the rural landscape in Vietnam from 1961 to 1971 to defoliate trees and shrubs and kill food crops that were providing cover and food to opposition forces. So much over reaction will it change the CEDH meta sure but like they have with lots of broken cards they learn to play around them. It just needs to run tutors itself. Discord Server | SynergyBuild I was mostly relying on the inevitablity of Maralen slowly killing off opponents 3 life a turn if I couldn't assemble a faster win. With these, we saw an increase in winrate by 22% for players that resolve an Agent, and anyone who resolved multiple agents (or stolen them through the use of Gilded Drake) had a 100% winrate. AACAP Statement Responding to Efforts to ban Evidence-Based Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse Youth. Let's make this point first and get it out of the way so that we can summarily dismiss the notion of "oh just use some removal on it". It simultaneously presents a game winning threat while preventing opponents from searching for EITHER game winning threats of their own or answers to the game winning threat that is already on the board. Weirdly, the best answer to get to protect it is another Agent. Dramatic Scepter. If the card costs 100 dollars on release then it's something that will be less of an issue for more casual groups as often the primary limiting factor is affordability. Since I play at a mid power tier in my group I like watching the cedh stuff so I follow the meta some what to see lines of play etc. Which one is more oppressive: Hullbreacher or Opposition Agent? Yikes. The rules committee is concerned with the casual players mainly. It's less like [[Aven Mindcensor]] and more like a busted [[Narset's Reversal]] on a permanent. Opposition Agent Decks that ran Consult had a 13% higher rate than ones that didn't, though decks that resolved OA had a 6% higher rate per opponent with consult in their deck. On November 17, the Israeli government outlawed the Northern Branch of the Islamic Movement and subsequently shut down 17 organizations and affiliated charities in a number of cities across Israel. After deeming activities related to the organization criminal, authorities seized computers, files, and confiscated funds from various offices. The two biggest cedh you tube content creators spike feeders and playing with power both say yes this is a strong card and will be a cedh format staple and the format will have to learn to play around the card. I will warn you that it will not be a deck to play often or you'll very soon find no one left to play with ever again. Lets be real yes you can go abuse lower powered tables with this card but I can do that with underworld breach and many more cards available in edh. No worse card for EDH has ever existed, and likely no card worse for EDH ever will. Opposition Agent; Avg Price $16.00 ($0.08) Buy on TCGPlayer Low $12.00 Avg $16.00 ($0.08) High $57.99 Opposition Agent. This quick video outlines my thoughts on Opposition Agent - the most powerful card we've seen so far from Commander Legends. Ok, I'm not going to pretend to understand all that. There are no shortage of effects that will layer very nicely on top of the Agent to completely lock up the game state and prevent an opposing players from ever finding the gas or answers needed to handle the situation and this will become the single most common game state scenario in EDH in the months and years that follow if this card is allowed to enter the format at all. No 2 card combo is acceptable to run in a world where Opposition Agent is in the meta as Scheming Symmetry tutor to win on the spot. is a format warping card that is great at the higher levels the card changes the meta which is fine cards do this all the time. Saying players in casual don't play win cons without having protection shows bias on your part. Everything is fine. But then I also discarded everyone's hands or at the least used targeted discard to find out if I could go for it so the likelihood of that working out for you is... dubious... at best. OPPOSITION TO MOTION TO DISMISS PLAINTIFF, through Counsel, states: 1. Yeah, ridiculous to think about it for a card that will be printed in a set intended for EDH, but this card single handedly breaks the entire format to an unheard of degree. It also works with lands and the such too, so the lock is pretty powerful, the downside is that Maralen can't protect itself or Agent very well until it starts stealing a few cards, to use as protection. Whatever. Personally, quite frankly, I'm not concerned with the 1% scenarios or the 4 games in 1000 where the lock doesn't hold up because a player immediately top decked one of the 3 answers their deck contained. This prohibition is known as the general-purpose criterion and is also used in Article II, 1 of the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC). You literally cannot even play Consult Oracle post Agent printing because the risk of running the combo yourself and having the Agent player stick Agent and use half of the combo from your deck and half of the combo from another deck (maybe even their own) is so great that Consult lines cannot be run. CEDH will be fine and the lower the power level the less effective opposition agent is because how few tutors are run in the lower power levels. Power Monolith. The position afforded to a player that assembles this type of lead is so commanding and resistant to disruption that just entering such a game state is essentially a win on the spot. It's so powerful that it actually may get banned for power levels, despite the flash banning saying it wouldn't happen again in that way for cEDH. The proposed ban, which was originally reported by the South China Morning Post, could come into force after a public comment period ending May 7. Seriously? Just blow up all their mana sources so they never have three mana, or win before they have three mana. Okay, gg. Folks said that about Flash and yet it stuck around for years (and wasn't even that good a combo to begin with as there were strategies that absolutely dominated Flash Hulk piles the community was far to slow to pick up on). In other words more casual decks (even if high on budget). The answer, neither, you just play them both lmao. It's not a card that's less of a problem for casual settings, it's a card that's so completely busted for competitive settings that it ruins the entire format and is significantly more disruptive in more casual settings where the types of play patterns and answers are even more limited. Once you get to high powered decks, the rules committee don't give a care. Opposition Agent is not only a card that will warp the meta far beyond what either of those two cards used as an example was capable of, but it will also be MORE powerful in action than either of those cards were as a combination of cards when the Agent is a SINGLE card. Opposition Agent... sigh. The EPO also handles appeals against decisions taken by them during grant and opposition proceedings. I'll have to watch your podcast when I get home after work so I apologize if your discussion leads the to the same conclusion I have but that title is extremely baited. I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks I agree it's probably a really bad card for the format, but honestly I don't imagine it will be banned, and I like the card, like PE, and I'd still run Leovold if possible. Guess what The answer to this question is quite easy to find. Not because the card was too powerful, but because the meta warped around it to a degree that decks must be designed to contain it or answers to it, or both more often than not. :). But for most people, in most decks, you have maybe what, 1, 2 tutors? | Spike on the Mic E02. For people asking for a pre-emptive EDH ban for Opposition Agent. First to find the Agent as this is the highest priority. Honestly, get rid of that deck, you'll be fine, we have answers, but it's unanswerable. Creature - Human Rogue. I assume the general prevailing opinion will be to let things shake out for a bit and see how the meta shapes up, but, as always, I expect to be 2 years ahead of the curve here as I always seem to be when it comes to things cEDH. On this day in 1962, President John F. Kennedy gave final approval to “Operation Ranch Hand” — a massive effort to defoliate the forests of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Hell I can not wait to pounce on my group when they crack a fetchland with one. /uj I run decks whose purpose is to attack the greediest strategies (Alesha hatebears but, mainly, Kalamax hard control) on PlayEDH. I don't know why OP thinks that the other three players can't get answers unless they tutor. So I guess "no win condition" was a bit of an exaggeration, but no one thinks of Maralen drain as the win condition, ya know? I'm gonna want those numbers to draw on for theory crafting solutions to this problem. Most of your arguments equally apply to decks opposing the Opposition Agent. The government has used the law to ban about 30 groups, including Open Russia. If you run a deck with win conditions at all the Agent can and will use them against you. The problem with Opposition Agent is that it goes way beyond just stopping other tutors. Wheel of Fortune Sometimes removal/counters don't work. Azdranax well, it's powerful enough I have actually wanted to do a bunch of testing, and for the last ~38 games it's been greatly impactful, and we have optimized the best play pattern being attempting to find more copies of OA with the first OA. they already deal with a similar card in cedh someone plays a Right now this was made as an answer to tutors, but the answer is so pushed, the benefits and hate so powerful, that the answer seemingly needs better answers, because this is an answer that can be cast relatively cheaply, at instant speed, getting more copies of itself or protection for itself. Ask Sheldon. After that I cover what I think are the impacts in both the cEDH meta as well as the greater Commander environment, and finish it off with an analysis of whether the card should be banned in Commander. No way in hell lol. It's a statement of fact. jaymc1130 yes you can bust Opposition Agent into a combo and win but at the higher level seen winota turn two kill a table with a combo or a turn two consolation win. AL. is already a staple cedh card now agent is just a better black version that will see play. The Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare, usually called the Geneva Protocol, is a treaty prohibiting the use of chemical and biological weapons in international armed conflicts.It was signed at Geneva on 17 June 1925 and entered into force on 8 February 1928. Dunno bout you, but I'd prefer to be the Archenemy in this scenario. At that point the fate is written in stone. If you want it auto banned then refer to rule 0. 2 B. Variations in gender expression represent normal and expectable dimensions of human development. Flash You control your opponents while they're searching their libraries. ET. I think that it's a pretty ferocious threat in 1v1 commander due to limited replies from 1 opponent. I think it is too soon too call. MagicMarc actually that's sort of my fear. But it's not the first card to do it and it certainly won't be the last. You control your opponents while they're searching their libraries. I could go in depth into all the reason why this card is the most disgusting thing ever seen for EDH, but, quite frankly, the text alone says enough. Agent completely invalidates Consult Oracle as a strategy. BAN GOZA, INC. It will be incredibly annoying and frustrating, but I simply don't see it as being absolutely the most broken card in EDH. Only the coalition this time around won't have access to anything in their deck to do anything about the situation. We play at a mid tier power level so they will groan and then kill me and then I will laugh all the way to my demise because it was funny. In most cases this will result in the Agent player casting the Agent and immediately finding a piece of protection for the Agent with the usurped search (FoW, Guardianship, Pact, free counters, you get the idea) which will cement the threat the Agent presents quite nicely. I mean come on if u that actually worked everyone would play a deck of all removal. But I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't have a mono Black Maralen deck with no win conditions of any sort that was currently undeafeated in playtesting (in only 6 or 7 games, so that's not saying much). By. King_marchesa the goal isn't to tutor up agent with it, but to tutor agent, then play both. Yeah. It's combo elements are all the cards in all opposing players decks, it's mana efficient, uber card slot efficient, and uber play pattern efficient. My issue is that when tutoring is unviable in other formats, card draw is the go-to, but with the release of Hullbreacher it seems that avenue may be paved with spiked asphalt and I am just concerned these answers are getting out of hand is all. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Is Opposition Agent Headed for a BAN? November 8, 2019. @Omniscience_is_life in cEDH rn, the deck that's being piloted a ton is a turbo pile with a ton of variants called Farm, this dumps on it, and so many other piles in such an aggressive way that it's beyond scary. I think I'm missing something, but it seems deal-with-able. Again, I don't disagree that this card can warp games. Imo maralen is more likely to die for it's sins. You can't even let Oracle resolve, whereas (to the best of my understanding) you can let the Agent land, and before your tutor goes off fire some removal and, because you ALSO know how to play the game, have some sort of countermagic up as well. In fact, I'd say they need more. to a graveyard deck; a highly niche silver bullet that doesn't even do anything against casual decks. All this without considering any of the other implications of Opposition Agent in any way and we've already arrived at the single most powerful card ever printed for EDH and it's not even a contest. Privacy statement | No other card that has ever been legal is even remotely this powerful. Who ever thought of it should be removed from any and all EDH design teams in the future to prevent further catastrophes. Investors voice opposition to US placement agent ban. I thought the Flash banning was a good decision because the card warped the meta. No more powerful EDH card has ever been printed, no card more warps the format than this card will. This occurrence isn't ever going to be statistically relevant and, as such, isn't worth consideration in the same way that trying to theorize a way to beat an opposing opening turn 1 first player to play consisting of Land, Mox, Crypt, Dark Ritual, Angel's Grace, Ad Nauseam isn't ever worthy of consideration. People need to stop trying to ban cards because they hate them. Rest in Peace Honestly I have no idea how someone could look at Aven Mindcensor and think it needs more power and toughness and an ability that nets quality card advantage.